@JonC, any chance you could put a measure across the tip of your 12-20lb Ugly Stick, on the top of the glass section just under the tip ring, and tell me what the diameter of yours is please?
And if I remember correctly @Saintly Fish, the rod you got built for Leo was on an Ugly Stik blank, wasn't it? Is it a 20-30lb version and if so, could you measure the tip diameter too please?