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57 minutes ago, Odyssey said:
Nice report 🙂
looks like a baby huss but hard to tell without seeing the mouth
Yes, it had the colour of a Huss, but on inspection it was a dog.
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2 hours ago, mike farrants said:
this time of year you should leave the squid jigs just off the bottom the whole time you are fishing - let the boat do the work - plenty of them about and cuttle!
Correct, this time of the year I use a 2 jig rig. 30lb mono with a blood loop 3” above the lead for the cuttle jig, and another blood loop about 3ft from the lead for the squid. We always get cuttle on the bottom jig and squid on the top jig, so it works a treat.
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1 minute ago, Andy135 said:
You've done well for bait this year. Top marks.
Cuttle ink to the face sounds pretty bad 😣. Guess you had the last laugh though 👍
Yep, didn't have my sunny’s on and it stung like feck, luckily Kyle had a water bottle in his bag and soon sorted it out.
All my clothes (jacket, hat etc), are all in the wash today !
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Today has been on the cards all week, albeit a little colder, sea conditions looked favourable until mid afternoon, however, with spring tides we needed an early start to be back on the slip for 12:30.
Yes, a lot colder, at 7:00am I cleared the frost off the jeep (2c), picked up Kyle, and we launched at 7:30.
The plan was to go for some more cuttle and squid, which would give us a good bait stock for the winter.
A short steam to our usual mark and we were soon into the cuttle and the odd squid, all of which were a decent size. The sea was NOT as forecast and was a tad lumpy, but very doable.
Kyle also sent down some baited hokkai’s and was rewarded with Grey’s, dogs, scad, and Mackerel.
One of the cuttle got its own back on me, I left it in the net over the side of the boat whilst I unhooked the jig from the mesh, and it got me full in the face with a shed load of ink !
All too soon it was time to head back in, but we had more than met our target with 24 cuttle, 6 squid, dogs, gurnards, scad, and Mack.
The boat took a lot of cleaning as both cuttle and squid are dirty bastids.
The Bait freezer is now completely full, with 41 decent cuttle, 12 large squid, over 200 mackerel and a load of king prawn. This winter we might target winter Cod, a big ask in our location, but I have a couple of marks in mind. Also, Kyle wants a 25 - 30lb winter Blond off the skerries.
Kyle with the smallest dog I have ever seen 🤣
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9 hours ago, thejollysinker said:
So if I’m fishing right over them and this was one of my tracks (before it crashed) on Sunday, is this the general vicinity or is it more specific?
if I get the chance I’d love to have a go for some more. I have caught them elsewhere before on the rough ground straight out from Teignmouth 🤔
Nah, not quite, I will send info via whattsapp 😉
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1 hour ago, jonnyswamp said:
Oh well, you win some................
Yes, a shame but hey ho,
I weighed it at 2lb 14oz, using Reuben Heaton digital scales 🙄
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1 hour ago, thejollysinker said:
Took my twin son from Cheltenham out Sunday for his first trip in over a year. He’s had a tough time this summer with a medical issue but he’s making a great recovery and he’s still working on it. With that in mind I decided a trip out to the last place I went on the reefs by the Ore Stone would be best.
we were out early and shot over at full tilt and were there and fishing in no time. Feathers and jigs deployed we were soon into mackerel and scad. The mackerel were nice and chunky and we loaded up the cool box with them and a load of the scad for bait.
I decided to drop a rig down with squid jigs on and within ten minutes was into my first of the day, result! We tried drifting all over the reef with varying results and on one drift a cuttlefish came up but by the time we sorted out the net he’d dropped off. I made up for it later by bagging a bigger one 👌
with the tides being so small we had to wait ages for some run to anchor in and even then it was pitiful. We persevered and dropped some big baits down in exactly the same spot where I’d done well two weeks ago but the bites were mainly from doggies ripping off the baits. I did manage a small huss and Tom hooked into a much bigger fish, only to lose it 3/4 of the way up….😕 I reeled up a massive spider which Tom wanted to keep but the reality of dealing with it later on would have been too much so we gave it a squid bait and sent him back 😅
when we packed up I used the advice given about the Alderney ring retrieval with the buoy way up front and it worked a treat, no dramas at all and confidence restored 😊
Tom had an absolute blast, a real boost for him although I could tell he was cream crackered bless him. Got home safely and dealt with all the fish in good time, couple of beers, shower and bed! Great day out, no big fish this time but we weren’t bothered 😊
Well done, and spiders smell well good when cooking !
How we missed each other I will never know, but we always (usually) go inside the Orestone when crossing the bay.
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15 minutes ago, jonnyswamp said:
Cracking report, very informative thread
If by Grey, you mean Grey Gurnard, then the current boat caught record is 2lb 8oz 14dr
So your near 3lber will/would have been a new British record
Yes, I thought it was close but the crew had already lobbed it back 🙄🤣
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4 hours ago, Saintly Fish said:Good going Ian, I'd love to find and catch cattle . What's the secret?? Where and how?
Its more 'how' than 'where', also the cuttle window is relatively small compared to squid that hang around right into January. Fortunately, I live in cuttle central, and the Brixham commercials refer to the season as 'black gold'. A couple of years ago one of the local smaller trawlers broke the landing record for cuttle after just a mornings fishing, his landing fetched £250k at the Brixham fish market, not bad for a mornings work !
Almost 100% of the UK cuttle goes to Spain, Portugal, Italy, and France.
They make a superb bait, and many charter skippers will tell you that cuttle will outfish any other bait for Cod, Conger, Bass, and Rays, but anglers don't use them that much as they retail between £8 -£10 per kilo, especially for XL,and XXL cuttle. Most of what I caught would be XXL.
If you know of a mark where you can catch squid, that also has a soft sand or mud bottom, then it will most likely produce cuttle.
Whereas you tend to catch squid in the first third of the water column off the bottom, for cuttle your jigs need to be just a few inches off the bottom. Rigging a paternoster and flicking it a little way from the boat is the easiest method, but a flying collar (wrecking boom) with a short trace works just as well as long as to work the jig as you would with feathers (but slower). They are aggressive gits, so any jig will do.
Once you feel the rod 'load up' then give it some low tension line (not slack line) for a few seconds, then a steady slow reel to the surface. Often they let go before the surface, but you need to have the net ready as many will 'throw' the jig at the surface, or pull away quickly to break off their grabbing tentacle. TBH, the landing rate is poor, about 1 in 5 hits will get to the boat. Yesterday I was getting bites within a few minutes of hitting the bottom.
Cuttle are masters of cammo, and tend to lay in hollows on the bottom ready to attack any prey, they will quite happily eat stuff the size of a joey.
Once in the net, then dump it straight into a bucket, where it will blow out a ton of ink. If you keep your deck wet, any ink will clean up ok. The white gel coat (inside the boat) needs to be regularly wiped down with a sponge. When the dirty bastids grunt the ink, it often goes every feck'in where, so keep the bucket covered with a cloth that can be binned (it will be black !). Also, wear sunglasses, as the gits will shoot water and ink at your face, and it rarely misses.
Yesterday I had 4 buckets of cuttle, as you can only fill them 3 parts full, due to the volume of ink.
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55 minutes ago, thejollysinker said:
Well done Ian 👏
I very nearly went to the Skerries on Sunday but Tom (my son with the medical issue) was down for a trip and it would have been too much for him….so we fished the same place I did two weeks ago.
Report to come but we did manage to land one cuttlefish and six squiddlies 😊
I am surprised that we didn't see each other !
I was there on Sunday morning, from about 8 until 9 (ish), then had to come back into Teignmouth to drop off daughter and grand daughter before we went down to the skerries.
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2 hours ago, RogB said:
Excellent stuff. I have only once taken a cuttle for eating - as revenge as it headshotted me while I tried to net it from my kayak. Luckily I had my sunglasses on otherwise I would have had ink in my eyes but my nice bright high vis hat (so the throbbers on jetski's don't run me over) and yellow kayak were never the same again. I don't think it was an accidental shot either....🤯
Squid are more accurate than cuttle 🙄🤣
you wont find a better bait than cuttle guts for the larger Bass 😉👍
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Sunday was a cracker of a day so an early start for the skerries, stopping on the way for fresh Mack.
We spent an hour on the Mack, and whilst kyle and the wife were busy with the feathers, I got the squid jigs out and found a couple of cuttle and 3 fresh squid.
Then a decent run to the skerries ( stopping to play with the Dolphins) where we drifted for plaice and soon bagged up, but only retained 6 decent keepers. Once the tide changed and started to pick up I dropped the pin and down went the big Ray baits.
We were soon into the Blonds and boated 11 with the biggest at 13lb. Also we had 2 dogs and a decent Grey that went almost 3lb. All too soon it was time to pull the anchor and head back. There was a shoal of BFT busting a bait ball just off the banks.
Monday was to be a bait gathering session, just the wife and I, as we had the school run in the afternoon.
The wife was on tinsel duty, and I set up a squid jig pat to target the cuttle. We were pretty successful with 20+ Mack and 17 cuttle. The biggest cuttle went almost 5lb and was taking line ! Cuttle are annoying as you only land about 1 in 5, as they grab and let go the jigs.
Also in the mix on the tinsels were Scad (lost count) and small tubs.@thejollysinker is going to be fuming, as he fishes right over the cuttle, but unless you actively target them, you would never know they are there.
Cuttle are dirty bastids, so cleaning the boat was a jet wash job, but keeping the deck wet helps a lot. They probably emit 5 times more ink than squid. All in the freezer now as cuttle will out fish all other baits in the winter. The quantity and quality of the cuttle would cost about £250 -£300 to buy as frozen bait, so well pleased.
2 days and 120nm, tired but happy.
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41 minutes ago, thejollysinker said:
I need to be retired with a nice pension then I can mess about with it whenever I want but hey ho!
True 🙄, although grandchildren duties and the evitable OAP health issues can sometimes put a damper on it.
I will keep you in mind as I sometimes have a spare seat in the winter months 👍 (The wife is a summer angler and Kyle is nose to the grindstone with A levels)
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52 minutes ago, thejollysinker said:
Something like that.
needed to finish setting up the trailer, sort those pesky spark plug caps out, rake the mooring, give it a scrub, blah blah blah…..all in advance of advertising it for sale 😪
Bigger boat next ?
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On 9/24/2023 at 10:00 PM, thejollysinker said:
Nothing gets past Ian down there does it 🤣
Is it time for annual service ?
I noticed it was out and on the trailer this afternoon 🤣🤣🤣🙄
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13 hours ago, thejollysinker said:
Cheers Mike. I have a triangle that Neil kindly donated and I was using it. Just needed to get even more space between boat and buoy and it was rough and I started flapping a bit 😅
Hopefully no more dramas thanks to all the good advice from everyone 👍😊
Gary, I missed out an important point 🙄. The moment you drop the anchor, always 'mark' it on the plotter, you can then use the plotter to drive in a large 'C' around the anchor, this is often easier than doing it by guesstimate when watching the buoy, especially in deep water, as it is sometimes difficult to guesstimate distance etc. On the plotter you can see exactly your location with ref to the anchor mark. As you pass the anchor, you should see the warp firmly change direction.
On the outer edge of the skerries, there are a couple of marks when I drop the anchor in 150ft, and then let the boat drift back on the warp (450 - 550ft of warp) to put me fishing half way up the bank shelf. These marks are on my plotter as 'anchor drop' marks. To recover from these solo by hand, would be an absolute nightmare !, using the Alderney method it is a 5 min job.
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3 hours ago, thejollysinker said:
Cheers Mike. I have a triangle that Neil kindly donated and I was using it. Just needed to get even more space between boat and buoy and it was rough and I started flapping a bit 😅
Hopefully no more dramas thanks to all the good advice from everyone 👍😊
I tend to use a lump of 2x1 with an hole in the middle to loop the rope. Sometimes I just put a clove hitch around the wooden priest and use that 👍.
If I am mega lazy, I just tie an alpine loop on the warp and clip on to it with the buoy, then when it is time to recover I just motor up to the buoy, clear the apline loop to allow the ring to slide, then just drift back in the tide until the warp tightens to recover.
I generally like to take off the ring stop before I recover, as it saves it banging on the gel coat.
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2 hours ago, thejollysinker said:
my helm is on the starboard side and I recover from the port side.
I know that some sea schools teach that method, but on most boats it has limited visibility to the warp and buoy position.
BTW. You can always anchor with the buoy close to the boat (10m ish), and then let some warp out just before you recover.
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There is a mark about 5nm from me where Cod can be caught during the winter. Mostly fish of 5 - 8lb, but the have been fish of over 20lb caught in the past.