DINOBOY Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Ago e got any tips on types of marks to look for rigs n groundbaits to try? I know they are around but nobody seems to fish much for them in my area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I use a two hook flapper, with the snoods about 12-18 inches of 10lb fluoro and size 4 or 6 hooks with pencil width strips of squid. I've heard some anglers use a bead or pop up on the snood. Bream like smooth rocky ground with a light covering of gravel to make their nests. On side scan sonar it's possible to pick up nesting sites - you'll see a series of shallow circular depressions a bit like the surface of the moon. If you find a nesting site go easy. One or two for the pot is ok but fishing out a whole site is clearly not ideal for future fish stocks. Good luck in your search. Keep us posted 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_Egg2012 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Pretty much what Andy says, I personally use yellow popups on my rigs. I've done side by side tests and found the same rig with the popups 99% outfished the non popup rig some days by a considerable amount. Yellow is the colour, a tip passed to me by a former team England angler. As for groundbait it does work at certain times and marks, I mince fish, squid and add boiled rice with a bit of bran to stiffen it up, freeze it then I use another rod to lower a cage feeder full of it Edited April 16, 2021 by Scotch_Egg2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINOBOY Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 Thanks guys, any particular depth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, DINOBOY said: Thanks guys, any particular depth? The bream marks round here range from 5-6m up to 20m, so I don't think depth makes too much difference. Look for rocky, gravelly ground and drift about until you find the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Andy135 said: drift about until you find the fish. Never heard of anyone drifting for bream? Is that a thing? Anchor up and trot the lead back to search out the fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Never heard of anyone drifting for bream? Is that a thing? Anchor up and trot the lead back to search out the fish. Yep. Covers more ground that way. I was fishing Bullocks at anchor a couple of seasons back and a large wooden boat drifted between me and the next boat. He was prospecting for bream. We blanked. He didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Yep. Covers more ground that way. I was fishing Bullocks at anchor a couple of seasons back and a large wooden boat drifted between me and the next boat. He was prospecting for bream. We blanked. He didn't. Well that’s a first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just now, Saintly Fish said: Well that’s a first. I wish. Sadly I'd blanked plenty before that session. Still do as it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Andy135 said: I wish. Sadly I'd blanked plenty before that session. Still do as it happens. I didn’t mean you blanking was a first. We all know that’s a regular occurrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Saintly Fish said: I didn’t mean you blanking was a first. We all know that’s a regular occurrence. I know you didn't 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Weymouth charters fish for bream on the drift quite often. As already said it's a good way to try and find where they are as long as the drift isn't to fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Anchor up but be prepared to move, bounce your bait around, hold your rod. Ragworm can be good for bream too. I find that they can very patchy, keep the bait moving to find them 🙂 they scrap well and taste lovely Edited April 16, 2021 by Odyssey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DINOBOY Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 Thanks for the info lads I’m keen to get them on my list of alternative targets, I always target them when I go to the Channel Islands from the shore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked1980 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 We quite often drift for them here over rough ground and down the sides of the wrecks Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked1980 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 These were all caught on the drift on rough ground off Dover mick and Andy135 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 i've also heard that yellow is the colour - and will be targetting the bream this year too - but what do the pop ups do? lift the bait? eg are they floating beads? looking forward to hitting the bream between Ringstead and lulworth -and in portland harbour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, mike farrants said: are they floating beads? Pretty much, although true pop-ups are much more buoyant than beads (most of which float anyway just not very well, based on my experience), and are a slightly different shape than regular beads. See the link below. https://www.veals.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000002.pl?WD=pop&PN=Tronix-Lumi-Pop-Ups-4565.html#SID=76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 ok got it - i have some bigguns from Sea-Glo - to avoid the crabs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_Egg2012 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 7 hours ago, mike farrants said: i've also heard that yellow is the colour - and will be targetting the bream this year too - but what do the pop ups do? lift the bait? eg are they floating beads? looking forward to hitting the bream between Ringstead and lulworth -and in portland harbour! I reckon the floating beads don't pop the bait up much but give the bait a more neutral bouyancy so it wafts around in the tide. GPSguru, mike farrants and Hooked1980 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Earlier in the season, this chap fell to a finger length strip of squid, pennelled using size 4 hooks, with a white pop-up above the top hook. I found that pennel rigging the squid strip with the lower hook at the tail end of the bait did well for picking up fish instead of getting half the bait nibbled off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 nice idea on the pennell -- they do tent to 'nip' the tail of the bait off...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, JonC said: The only bream I’ve caught for ten years fell to my one trick pony 4/0 running ledger cast across the tide. That is my full range of expertise on the matter. But what a lovely bream it was too2.. Apologies I no longer have the un graffiti version. Geoff and Andy135 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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