Odyssey Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, GPSguru said: @Scotch_Egg2012 @Andy135 remember with an outboard that the flywheel effect of the prop is your best friend. Doing the following you can turn the boat in its own length .......... however, always make allowance for wind and tide Use the wind to your advantage whenever possible ........ in my situation I can have up to a 6knt tide flowing, so the wind is a minor consideration ! As @Odysseyhas said, slow in pro, and the slower, the better job you will make of it. Engine to full Port, a small burst of forward will swing the bow to port and the stern to starboard. Engine to full Port, a small burst of reverse will swing the bow to starboard and the stern to port. The opposite is true when the engine is turned full to Starboard. On a twin engine boat I usually use just one engine (port) and tilt the other. Exactly that! I have shallow draft and I’m 30ft long but I’ve got a bow thruster. I can park it alongside without a bow thruster single handed but there is something satisfying when you head out of cabin to tie your lines on and you’re down to 1 inch clearance 😉 Slow is key, if you’re going wrong a quick sharp bit of throttle will stop you in your tracks, but only for a second! You’ll find it easier if you mark your wheel so you always know what position mid-ships is. Practice is key but if you’re going as slow as you can and plenty of fenders you’ll be fine 🙂 suzook12, Scotch_Egg2012 and GPSguru 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted May 4, 2021 Author Share Posted May 4, 2021 12 hours ago, Scotch_Egg2012 said: Apologies to the OP for hijacking your post no apology needed - this is really good info for those wanting to learn! Scotch_Egg2012, Saintly Fish and suzook12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony smith Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 My mate and I took our boats out in the first lockdown went out to our Conger Mark 14 miles out. we took two boats because we wasn’t allowed together because on Covid we anchored up an our 1/2 miles apart he got his prop around an old crab pot cut a long story short his boat sunk within 5mins there I was on my own picking up a mate in the sea he lost everything if we hadn’t taken two boats not worth thinking about. he fishes with me now he is just going to buy a new boat in a few weeks it was a bit frightening. But good job we took two boats It's good to get out on your own 👍 jonnyswamp, suzook12, Geoff and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Wow! Tony, that's not good. Was he ok?? It's amazing how quickly a wrapped prop can sink a boat if there's even a little bit of tide to pull the stern under. Frightening prospect for any boat angler. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tony smith said: he is just going to buy a new boat in a few weeks What sort of boat is he looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Blimey Tony, that kind of experience would put most folk off buying another boat. Hope he was unhurt and fully insured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Andy135 said: What sort of boat is he looking for? Have you got one or two to sell then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Have you got one or two to sell then? Everything has a price, right?! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, Andy135 said: Everything has a price, right?! 😉 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, JonC said: Going back to the shaft vs outboard discussion that may have been touched on I always thought that fouling was a lesser threat for outboards as they are easier to reach, but I guess they would be more prone to swamping as the weigh of the engine is that much further back. Also a shaft should have a decent rope cutter fitted to make short work of a pot line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, JonC said: I think a lot of people are over estimating the effectiveness of a rope cutter Trouble is you’ll never know if it’s effective or not until it’s too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, JonC said: Going back to the shaft vs outboard discussion that may have been touched on I always thought that fouling was a lesser threat for outboards as they are easier to reach, but I guess they would be more prone to swamping as the weigh of the engine is that much further back. That's the theory, but as you say, the weight is further back. I think the advantage is that you can clear a line wrapped round your outboard prop without getting yourself wet, just by tilting the engine up and out of the water, but the practical reality is that you'd have to act within a very, very short space of time to avoid disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony smith Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Yes he was fine But as the boat sunk the bridge tilted over and caught his trousers. They ripped from top to bottom. I saw the boat go down and he went with it Luckily his auto life jacket went off and pulled him up 😬 ripping his trousers It was a bit frightening how fast it all happened I was thinking off running my boat over the line and let my rope cutter do it's job but you don't want to get in trouble yourself. It all worked out fine in the end.👍 Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony smith Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 He was leaning over the stern of the boat trying to cut the rope And two waves just come over the boat It's that easy to swamp your boat He's looking for a Arvor 250 or Similar 👍 mike farrants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony smith Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Yes it would JonC but it's pulling you under with the pressure. He should of stripped off dived in and cut the rope I was along side him to pick him up But it all happened do fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, JonC said: He probably didn’t want to strip off in front of you in case you filmed him 🤣 What goes through your mind to even consider that as a possibility?? 🤷♂️ Tony smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, JonC said: If your outboard was fouled on a fixed rope would the tilt have the power to raise itself against a strong tide? Yes, on most outboards the hydraulics are plenty power full enough to just get the prop out of the water. You need to act fast as anchored from the stern will sink a boat very quickly. I keep a sharp serrated knife mounted on the transom 😉 Tony smith, JonC and Geoff 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, JonC said: The age we live in , people tend to film things rather than intervening, then WhatsApp it around. Yeah, but the way you said it made it sound like you thought he would be perving on his mate. 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, JonC said: Don’t judge everyone by your low standards. I was thinking more of the comedy value than nonsing, but whatever turns you on? Don't try to turn this around on me Jon. You wrote about him stripping off and being filmed, not me. #we'veoutedaperv... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, JonC said: I didn’t think for a moment that you would find it sexually arousing. I didn't.... but it sounded like you did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, JonC said: And don’t for one moment try to tell me that if you had a film of one of us sinking in our underpants that you wouldn’t spam it all over the place 🤣 FFS man, I wouldn't even have my phone out! I'd be trying to get you out of the water, pronto! GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 55 minutes ago, JonC said: If your outboard was fouled on a fixed rope would the tilt have the power to raise itself against a strong tide? Yep! I picked up an old anchor line and mine pulled it up.... 2 mins with a knife and I was free. Tied a buoy on the old line, pulled it up and took it home JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Andy135 said: trying Trying hard and failing most probably. Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, JonC said: I guess everyone has a knife in your area just to protect themselves You would be surprised just how many experienced boat owners who don't have a knife to hand. However, it is no big deal for me as I have a knife on my LJ. JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, GPSguru said: You would be surprised just how many experienced boat owners who don't have a knife to hand. However, it is no big deal for me as I have a knife on my LJ. Just imagine if you tripped, fell and popped your dingy 30 miles out 🤦🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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