GPSguru Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, headlight said: My quote was from the Force4 chandlery website ad. They must have it wrong. Go in there and demand 2 for the price of one so that you can treat your fuel for the same price as their Ad 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headlight Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 So it's 1.5ml quickstor per 1 litre of petrol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, headlight said: So it's 1.5ml quickstor per 1 litre of petrol. 1.6ml of quickstor per Litre of petrol 👍 I use a 100ml plastic syringe calibrated in 1 mL increments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headlight Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, GPSguru said: 1.6ml of quickstor per Litre of petrol 👍 I use a 100ml plastic syringe calibrated in 1 mL increments. Yes I rounded down. I get my petrol 20 litres per can so I'll put 30ml in per can. I've just bought a 50ml plastic syringe graduated in 5ml increments, that will be close enough. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordmac Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Last time I tried a syringe for measuring additive it dissolved the markings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Gordmac said: Last time I tried a syringe for measuring additive it dissolved the markings! My daughter is in the medical profession and got some for me which have been ok with measuring solvent liquids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, JonC said: No wonder the nhs is struggling with all the equipment being robbed No, she bought them through a supplier for me. Those in normal use are unsuitable . Also, I said ‘medical profession’ of which there are many that are not government funded. Can you read and inwardly digest or do you still need feck’in numpty pictures 🙄 So on yer bike johnny 🖕😂😂😂😂 Edited August 1, 2021 by GPSguru JonC and Andy135 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, JonC said: The odd syringe here and defibrillator there soon adds up. Well yes, it probably does if YOU keep stealing them . That sort of activity is completely alien to me, not something I would even think of doing. 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I use em for mixing 2 stroke as well, borrowed some from the loco shed, used for taking oil samples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinker Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) On 7/24/2021 at 1:42 PM, GPSguru said: I know that @Clinker has always used quickstor in his 225, with good results, but I am not sure if Andrew also uses premium fuel. So, what are you guys going to use to protect your fuel system ? I'm a bit late to this discussion, but yes, I use premium fuel in addition to Quickstor and Quickleen on every fill up and will continue to do so for as long as I can. I'm sure the engine would cope with E10, but it's the fuel that's stored over winter that concerns me. I try to run it down but sometimes I don't get out as often as I would hope in October which is the last month my insurance lets me stay on the mooring. Edited August 5, 2021 by Clinker Andy135 and GPSguru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, Clinker said: I'm a bit late to this discussion, but yes, I use premium fuel in addition to Quickstor and Quickleen on every fill up and will continue to do so for as long as I can. I'm sure the engine would cope with E10, but it's the fuel that's stored over winter that concerns me. I try to run it down but sometimes I don't get out as often as I would hope in October which is the last month my insurance lets me stay on the mooring. I am just using. E10 and quickstor on the advice of Barrus. I use my boat all winter as we tend to get at least a couple fishable days per month, but as you know winter weather is completely unpredictable and the quickstor will give me some comfort that the E10 wont separate. JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinker Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) On 8/5/2021 at 7:16 PM, GPSguru said: I am just using. E10 and quickstor on the advice of Barrus. I use my boat all winter as we tend to get at least a couple fishable days per month, but as you know winter weather is completely unpredictable and the quickstor will give me some comfort that the E10 wont separate. If push comes to shove, I’ll just have to buy a pump so I can empty the tank for winter - both our cars are petrol (never had one of those diesel thingys) so I do have a way of using anything I had to pump out. I’ll be using E5 as long as I can in the meantime. Edited August 12, 2021 by Clinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Apparently it's relatively easy to remove the ethanol from petrol. See below. Which makes me wonder if the same principle could be used with a water separating filter for boats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 7 hours ago, Andy135 said: Apparently it's relatively easy to remove the ethanol from petrol. See below. Which makes me wonder if the same principle could be used with a water separating filter for boats. Your video is age restricted, so unfortunately I’m unable to watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Your video is age restricted, so unfortunately I’m unable to watch it. Try clicking on the Watch on YouTube link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I did mention this before, an old drag racers trick..... You can't really do it on a boat because the fuel needs to settle out before you draw the clean fuel off. Also makes the fuel excrutiatingly expensive because for every litre you lose just over 10% and its not like it's expensive enough already!! Either super unleaded (E5) or additives is probably a better solution.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Heres another video that isn't age restricted.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Interesting comments near the end regards octane.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 43 minutes ago, suzook12 said: I did mention this before, an old drag racers trick..... You can't really do it on a boat because the fuel needs to settle out before you draw the clean fuel off. Also makes the fuel excrutiatingly expensive because for every litre you lose just over 10% and its not like it's expensive enough already!! Either super unleaded (E5) or additives is probably a better solution.... With E10 being to only available standard unleaded fuel here in South Devon, and judging by what I see on the slipway etc, I can't really see a lot of boaters taking much interest in this change, so it will be interesting in April/May next year ! I have spoken to a good friend in the local boatyard, and he has told me that they are gearing up to be able to rapidly pump out tanks of up to 1000L. I mentioned that in the event of phase separation and accumulated water in the bottom of the tank, would it not be easier to just pump out the water content ? His reply was that once separation has occurred, then the fuel octane rating will be way too low for a lot of engines to cope with, although modern Mercs will run happily on a minimum of 91 octane. My engine and fuel system are designed for E10, so I will just use an additive (which keeps the fuel good for up to 12 months) as a precaution. I tend to use my boat at least once a month in the winter. captin slows old outlaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 28 minutes ago, GPSguru said: With E10 being to only available standard unleaded fuel here in South Devon, and judging by what I see on the slipway etc, I can't really see a lot of boaters taking much interest in this change, so it will be interesting in April/May next year ! I have spoken to a good friend in the local boatyard, and he has told me that they are gearing up to be able to rapidly pump out tanks of up to 1000L. I mentioned that in the event of phase separation and accumulated water in the bottom of the tank, would it not be easier to just pump out the water content ? His reply was that once separation has occurred, then the fuel octane rating will be way too low for a lot of engines to cope with, although modern Mercs will run happily on a minimum of 91 octane. My engine and fuel system are designed for E10, so I will just use an additive (which keeps the fuel good for up to 12 months) as a precaution. I tend to use my boat at least once a month in the winter. Yeah, that was something touched on in the video I posted regards octane. This is where you can add a substance such as silkolene pro boost, although there are many others. The video suggests octanes as low as 88. From memory when last abroad, we were running 92 grade and the bikes ran just fine (all 90's bike engines or newer). I suppose a 2nd hand car electric fuel pump could be used on a stick to pump the bottom of the tank out (a method I use with a cheap caravan water pump for the heating oil tank...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishybuisness Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 E10 i have used e5 for a while but i recently did a 350 mike round trip and due to the marina i stayed at not having a fuel station i had to jerry can fill up 3 times over the period. on my return journey i checked my fuel water separator 2 times and each time i emptied it i had 50 50 water and fuel. this fuel wasnt standing around and only a few hrs between full and using mostly all of the tank 250lts i will stay well clear and use e5 or premium. what we have to think about is not if our engines can run on e10 but can they run on water? it really is that simple Ill do my best to avoid the orange taxi service thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Can someone post up the correct stuff to buy please? Im hoping to be out soon and will need to refuel when I get back. As the weather is likely to get worse I want to get in the routine off adding additives to the tanks if I know im not out for a week or 2…. Just want to make sure I’m adding the right stuff as I can’t find any Yamaha equivalent…. 😬😬😬😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted August 13, 2021 Author Share Posted August 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Can someone post up the correct stuff to buy please? Im hoping to be out soon and will need to refuel when I get back. As the weather is likely to get worse I want to get in the routine off adding additives to the tanks if I know im not out for a week or 2…. Just want to make sure I’m adding the right stuff as I can’t find any Yamaha equivalent…. 😬😬😬😬 I use Quicksilver Quickstor, which is a mercury product and stocked by most chandlers. Andrew ( @Clinker) uses the same stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GPSguru said: I use Quicksilver Quickstor, which is a mercury product and stocked by most chandlers. Andrew ( @Clinker) uses the same stuff. Ok cool. I doubt Yamaha will bs too badly affected… I know that Yam engines are fine with E10, it’s just the lines and tank that worries me! But it’s plastic so no varnish to disolve like in GRP tank…. I shall see if I can get some at a reasonable price…. Bulk maybe cheaper…. 🤔🤔🤔 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quicksilver-Quickstor-Inboard-Fuel-Tank-Stabiliser-3-78L-/193704201968?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 Edited August 13, 2021 by Odyssey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Premier just sent all their berth-holders an email stating that they'll continue with E5 (as Super Unleaded) from their fuel berths for a short period of time after the cut-off date but will move over to E10 "in the near future". A quick search in the manual for my engine and I came across the following. Looks like a lucky escape, or perhaps a reprieve, for me then. But I will need to replace my fuel lines - they should be the required standard to handle ethanol blends but are about 10 years old now so will need doing anyway. captin slows old outlaw and Saintly Fish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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