Saintly Fish Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 So just purchased a oil pump to suck the oil from the engine. I know it’s got to be warm to make the removal easier , but what’s the best temp ? Not too hot obviously, I’m thinking about 55/60 deg C ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Run engine 5-10 minutes from cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 It's a 2011 engine Jon, with 170 hours on it. Hardly a ticking time bomb at 9 years old?! #famouslastwords! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 What engine is it Andy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Suzuki DF300TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Ah yeah, forgot you was outboard...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Not many hours.... May want to check the interval in timing belts etc, maybe not for a while but worth knowing. mine have about 1000 hours on each so about mid life 🙂 Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Not many hours.... May want to check the interval in timing belts etc, maybe not for a while but worth knowing. mine have about 1000 hours on each so about mid life 🙂 I have a full service booked in for Friday. Belts, anodes, plugs, the works 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Sounds good 🙂 no excuse not to get out there soon! Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, JonC said: I hope that you are going to stand there with your hands on your hips watching and cross questioning him. That’s a good way to bring out the best in people Both Fishy and I will be there, scrutinising his every move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Poor bugger will charge double if the comedy club are watching 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headlight Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 9:41 PM, Andy135 said: It's a 2011 engine Jon, with 170 hours on it. Hardly a ticking time bomb at 9 years old?! #famouslastwords! My god Andy that"s terrible, only 170 hours in 9 years . That" far FAR worse than if it had done 100 hours plus a year. Good luck with your ticking time bomb 😂 Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, JonC said: I’m sure he’s racing up and down the Solent as we speak As it happens, we were 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 3 hours ago, headlight said: My god Andy that"s terrible, only 170 hours in 9 years . That" far FAR worse than if it had done 100 hours plus a year. Good luck with your ticking time bomb 😂 Mine has averaged 200 hours per year..... Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, J Hook said: Oil in that fat lump of yours will take ages to warm up. Farrrrrr slower than the coolant. Sitting at dock idling I doubt very much it will ever reach 55 deg. You got to take the boat out and give it a reasonable run. Otherwise, plumb that sucker in and hit the cabin lounger with a brewski. Perfect way to work imo. Who cares if it takes an hour to dump 20 litres. Ok thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 So, I still have not got round to doing this oil change yet. But as it happens tomorrow I’m taking the boat round for it’s final voyage before it gets lifted for 6 weeks on the hard. After the short journey of 25 minutes the engine oil will be sufficiently warm to allow the extraction of it. But, how long is it ok to leave the engine without oil in it (and no Jon it won’t be used)? Is it ok to leave it empty of oil for 2-3 weeks or should I plan to put new oil and filter in straight away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_Egg2012 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 It shouldn't matter too much if you leave it but me being me I'd do the complete job in one. That way there is no room for forgetting anything. Most of the oil in an engine would have drained into the sump after that period of time you'll only be left with the galleries or other pockets that won't drain down.if you are going to leave it empty it would be good practice to crank the engine to get the oil round the engine before letting it fire, best way is to remove the wires from the stop solenoid so it cannot inject fuel, crank it in 20sec bursts so you don't overheat the starter. it's something I have always done after rebuilding an engine and ensures when it fires up it is not running with little oil pressure or flow whilst it pulls it up from the sump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scotch_Egg2012 said: It shouldn't matter too much if you leave it but me being me I'd do the complete job in one. That way there is no room for forgetting anything. Most of the oil in an engine would have drained into the sump after that period of time you'll only be left with the galleries or other pockets that won't drain down.if you are going to leave it empty it would be good practice to crank the engine to get the oil round the engine before letting it fire, best way is to remove the wires from the stop solenoid so it cannot inject fuel, crank it in 20sec bursts so you don't overheat the starter. it's something I have always done after rebuilding an engine and ensures when it fires up it is not running with little oil pressure or flow whilst it pulls it up from the sump. Ok, thanks Scott. I will find 30 minutes more and do the whole job instead. Scotch_Egg2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_Egg2012 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Ok, thanks Scott. I will find 30 minutes more and do the whole job instead. Atleast you know it's done ready to run when you get back down there Geoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Neil, if you do end up leaving the oil out, put some tape across the ignition switch so you cant accidentally go to start it...... Filters are generally quite low down so you would need to swap that out anyway, and leaving it off would soon make a mess on your nice clean boat.... Geoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 32 minutes ago, suzook12 said: Neil, if you do end up leaving the oil out, put some tape across the ignition switch so you cant accidentally go to start it...... Filters are generally quite low down so you would need to swap that out anyway, and leaving it off would soon make a mess on your nice clean boat.... Thanks Steve. If I didn’t do it all (which I will) she wouldn’t get started anyhow as she’ll be on the hard for 6 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: So, I still have not got round to doing this oil change yet. But as it happens tomorrow I’m taking the boat round for it’s final voyage before it gets lifted for 6 weeks on the hard. After the short journey of 25 minutes the engine oil will be sufficiently warm to allow the extraction of it. But, how long is it ok to leave the engine without oil in it (and no Jon it won’t be used)? Is it ok to leave it empty of oil for 2-3 weeks or should I plan to put new oil and filter in straight away? I would completely finish the job and refill with new oil ............. it is bad practise to leave an engine empty of oil. Once you have run the engine to get the oil warm, then leave it for 10 mins to allow the accumulated oil within the engine to drain back down to the sump .............. BTW: changing the oil on inboard boat engines is a shite job ............... be sure to have a bag of oil soak up granules to hand, of a load of dry rag ........... Is the oil filter a paper or a screw on can ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, GPSguru said: Is the oil filter a paper or a screw on can ? It’s a black screw on type, I have a Tupperware bowl to put under it and the strap wrench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Saintly Fish said: It’s a black screw on type, I have a Tupperware bowl to put under it and the strap wrench. IIffit hangs vertical, then carefully fill the new one with oil before fitting ................. if it is horizontal then half fill with oil (otherwise it gets messy), remember to smear the sealing ring with fresh oil before fitting ...... it stops the ring from 'crunching' and also makes sure that the filter is easier to get off. By doing the above the oil pressure will build quicker when you start the engine as the pump doesn't have to fill the filter first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 3, 2021 Author Share Posted January 3, 2021 How imperative is it to get 100% of the old oil out? Mine holds 10.5lt but I have only been able to pump out 7.5-8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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