Jon cook Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Can I claim to have the longest running thread, given I'm named in its title......🤔 Back in track its crazy how prices seem to be rising. Luckily I've a couple of mates who take pity on me. Andy135, suzook12 and Saintly Fish 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Jon cook said: crazy how prices seem to be rising Aint it just, and it seems to be everything. Was on an auction for vintage bikes and they were making more than retail value, tractors the same, lathes have gone through the roof.... I suppose the up side is I have loads of stuff that has nigh on doubled in price........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 Any update on your boat search @Jon cook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon cook Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Yes but I'm still boatless! Was offered a 50% share in a Raider cuddy, but then the seller had a touchnif the 2nds. To be honest id only considered it as the other owner rarely uses it so mightnhave worked although not really ideal. More promising was an Endeavour 500 i went to see last week. It was advertised wellnover price. I went to seen after discussing money and a more realistic price. It was very much unloved an in need of some TLC which is fine. The downside was the state if the keel. Having been mainly trailer launched, there were sone proper chuncks in the hull. Needed patching in about 4 or 5 spots. Mainly gell coat, but 2 were down to the glass. The trailer was a state, an would have needed a complete overhaul. To highlight that it was even missing a roller an sat on the metal arm..... not encouraged when U was the one to point it out. Always been trailed. Orginal 2005 electorincs an wiring so that all needes re doing. All of that was doable for me, but the priced needed to reflect it. He wouldn't budge on the money, an being far from a turn key package Ive walked away. Shame as its 3 miles from my house an nit been used for the last couple of years. Engine was recently service ( almost 800 quid) new fuel pump etc. I'm hoping he might come back to me but we'll seen. Ive pointed out similar packages going for the money he's asking that are far better in comparison. It'll haooen but in the mean time I just keep badgering others😂 suzook12 and Andy135 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jon cook said: Yes but I'm still boatless! Was offered a 50% share in a Raider cuddy, but then the seller had a touchnif the 2nds. To be honest id only considered it as the other owner rarely uses it so mightnhave worked although not really ideal. More promising was an Endeavour 500 i went to see last week. It was advertised wellnover price. I went to seen after discussing money and a more realistic price. It was very much unloved an in need of some TLC which is fine. The downside was the state if the keel. Having been mainly trailer launched, there were sone proper chuncks in the hull. Needed patching in about 4 or 5 spots. Mainly gell coat, but 2 were down to the glass. The trailer was a state, an would have needed a complete overhaul. To highlight that it was even missing a roller an sat on the metal arm..... not encouraged when U was the one to point it out. Always been trailed. Orginal 2005 electorincs an wiring so that all needes re doing. All of that was doable for me, but the priced needed to reflect it. He wouldn't budge on the money, an being far from a turn key package Ive walked away. Shame as its 3 miles from my house an nit been used for the last couple of years. Engine was recently service ( almost 800 quid) new fuel pump etc. I'm hoping he might come back to me but we'll seen. Ive pointed out similar packages going for the money he's asking that are far better in comparison. It'll haooen but in the mean time I just keep badgering others😂 Jon sounds like you did the right thing by walking away. It’s tough out there atm, but something will turn up, just be patient and keep your eye on the ball! Jon cook and Andy135 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon cook Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Some Warriors an Raiders are going for proper silly money..... crazy times, apoears theres plenty of Covid cash knocking about for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Jon cook said: Some Warriors an Raiders are going for proper silly money..... crazy times, apoears theres plenty of Covid cash knocking about for some. You say that, was talking to my accountant and he was saying there's plenty having to pay grants back and being fined for the pleasure too..... Meanwhile. the right boat will turn up, just gotta be ready when it does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon cook Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 For those dishonestly playing the system then I quite agree - some down here were even being arrested for fraud, having claimed but still running an open business. Something will come along, just don't wanna pay through the nose for it🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 Agree with the above, you did right to walk. If nothing else he will now be second-guessing himself about the asking price. Leave him to stew for a week and call him again with a realistic offer. He may just bite your arm off. If not, there's no harm in sitting tight and waiting for the right boat 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 @Jon cook are you still in the market for a raider? @headlight of this forum is looking to sell his very soon!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 @Jon cook have you seen this mate? https://www.boatshop24.co.uk/fishing-boats/raider-18-fisherman/618683 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: @Jon cook have you seen this mate? https://www.boatshop24.co.uk/fishing-boats/raider-18-fisherman/618683 That's a good find. @Jon cook, got to be worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Sorry folks it’s under powered, you want 100hp min, no elecytronics either…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Sorry folks it’s under powered, you want 100hp min, no elecytronics either…. Agree, but still not bad for a starter boat. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Agree, but still not bad for a starter boat. Can always sell the 80hp and purchase a 115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Can always sell the 80hp and purchase a 115 Supply situation may be better now, but when I bought my 115 Merc back in the summer I had to pay a bit over the odds for it and no discount. That does look like a very nice boat. Geoff. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 @Jon cook https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/boat/2004-orkney-pilothouse-20-8245269/?utm_source=search alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=INTL_SearchAlerts&utm_content=3122022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: @Jon cook https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/boat/2004-orkney-pilothouse-20-8245269/?utm_source=search alerts&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=INTL_SearchAlerts&utm_content=3122022 IIRC the mercruiser 1.7 was the vauxhall astra lump ? Proper unreliable POS, notorious for Turbo, cracked head, and oil cooler issues, so I guess a new engine will be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, GPSguru said: IIRC the mercruiser 1.7 was the vauxhall astra lump ? Proper unreliable POS, notorious for Turbo, cracked head, and oil cooler issues, so I guess a new engine will be needed. Yes, but can be picked up for £3.5k. So if a bit of time was allowed then could be a good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Nice boat once new engine in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Doesn't look particularly well cared for..... Would be reluctant to shell out 12k personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, JonC said: The boat has a lot of potential but by the time a new engine is fitted it will cost similar to market value, though it will have the benefit of a new engine. Who says it needs a new engine. Might just be a gasket gone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, JonC said: The boat has a lot of potential but by the time a new engine is fitted it will cost similar to market value, though it will have the benefit of a new engine. Just saying it doesn't look well maintained.... You could easily add a new leg to the engine, not such a good deal then..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Who says it needs a new engine. Might just be a gasket gone?? True, BUT why would you knock £6k off of quoted value for a leaky gasket? You'd just fix it surely? If it needs topping up frequently, theres a good possibilty it's run dry at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, JonC said: I personally would personally always allow worst ways when looking at a project, going into this sort of thing with any degree of optimism about a quick cheap fix would be foolish in my opinion. Anything that comes easy is then a bonus. I don't disagree, but being a doom munger is also not good. A hint of optimism always helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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