JDP Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 For anyone who may have read any of my posts over the past few years, I've highly recommended the 131 braid. I've found it to outlast any other braid I've used, which ends up costing far less in the long term as I don't need to replace it often. In fact I've not replaced any in 4 yrs. The reels that I originally put this braid on have handled all sorts of fish, both large and small. Its only downside has been the price. This line casts very well, but like many braids, the accuracy of the strength labelling seems a bit off - expect it to break well above what the rating is. Apparently Sufix are not making enough out of their premium line and sell far more of the cheaper 832, so are dropping the 131 from manufacture. So tackle stores this side of the pond are now selling it at well bellow the price of jbraid and other budget braids. If I hadn't recently spent so much on my boat and trailer I would be buying a little stock pile given how good the price is, however I have ordered 4 spools of 300m which should cover me well for the next few years. If you have never tried it and considered it too expensive, keep an eye on prices to see if your local tackle store drop the price. Price here equates to around 20 quid for 300m of 10-20-30 and 50lb. A non related image of my boat in the background just to brighten the page !!!!!.....because I know Jon likes random pic's. suzook12, Dicky, Saintly Fish and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 32 minutes ago, JDP said: For anyone who may have read any of my posts over the past few years, I've highly recommended the 131 braid. I've found it to outlast any other braid I've used, which ends up costing far less in the long term as I don't need to replace it often. In fact I've not replaced any in 4 yrs. The reels that I originally put this braid on have handled all sorts of fish, both large and small. Its only downside has been the price. This line casts very well, but like many braids, the accuracy of the strength labelling seems a bit off - expect it to break well above what the rating is. Apparently Sufix are not making enough out of their premium line and sell far more of the cheaper 832, so are dropping the 131 from manufacture. So tackle stores this side of the pond are now selling it at well bellow the price of jbraid and other budget braids. If I hadn't recently spent so much on my boat and trailer I would be buying a little stock pile given how good the price is, however I have ordered 4 spools of 300m which should cover me well for the next few years. If you have never tried it and considered it too expensive, keep an eye on prices to see if your local tackle store drop the price. Price here equates to around 20 quid for 300m of 10-20-30 and 50lb. A non related image of my boat in the background just to brighten the page !!!!!.....because I know Jon likes random pic's. I'm going to re spoil all mine soon so I will look out for this! Ta JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 @JDP I just had a quick look and prices here in the UK are running at approx £70 per 300m. Maybe it's taking a while for the news to travel this far!! daio web and JDP 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhookit Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 i use two types of braid one is/was £40 for 2000m 8 strand 80lbs that i use when common skate fishing and the odd shark / giant mackerel trip the other is 16 strand hollow core that costs £109 for 2000m i use this to splice nylon top shots into and to make wind-on leaders id never trust ( J ) to fly a kite never mind using it for fishing i did import some c16 hollow core from the states and its great to use but very expensive so never use it now tight lines Alain Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 6 hours ago, willyhookit said: i use two types of braid one is/was £40 for 2000m 8 strand 80lbs that i use when common skate fishing and the odd shark / giant mackerel trip the other is 16 strand hollow core that costs £109 for 2000m i use this to splice nylon top shots into and to make wind-on leaders id never trust ( J ) to fly a kite never mind using it for fishing i did import some c16 hollow core from the states and its great to use but very expensive so never use it now tight lines Alain Do you ever post pictures of the sharks and skate you catch, don't remember seeing any on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhookit Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 the pics on my old camera where too big the pics on my new camera seem to be ok and down load on here no problem just tried down loading a few old pics from years ago all these fish where caught in the ( sound of Jura ) the pic with the kayak lads is me towing them back in after fishing 4 miles down the loch ive no idea why i can down load pics now but ive thousands of them tight lines Alain Andy135, daio web, JDP and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhookit Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 tell a lie the guys are daisy chained off my boat common skate fishing guy in the middle ( Lozz ) was the first guy on a kayak to catch a 200 lbs common skate video should be on youtube ( scottish monsters ) Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhookit Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) John with his fish Edited July 15 by willyhookit Andy135, daio web, Saintly Fish and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 12 hours ago, JDP said: Do you ever post pictures of the sharks and skate you catch, don't remember seeing any on here. Do you ?? We only ever see your daughters fish!! Andy135 and GPSguru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 10 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Do you ?? We only ever see your daughters fish!! My daughter has pic's of me with fish and when Im alone fishing I rarely bother as its more a case of quick releasing alongside the boat trying not to damage the fish or boat. If Im keeping the odd tuna etc for food I will sometimes get a pic. There's no way I would rely on ebay braid for any fishing, way to much time and money invested to risk it on. The post was on 131 suffix braid, not a quest to find what others use. Just jogs my memory why I hadn't been posting on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 7 hours ago, JDP said: Just jogs my memory why I hadn't been posting on here. Oh dear, did you get out of bed on the wrong side today Jon? I don't think Alain was turning it into a "what do you all use" thread. He was just joining in. Like I said, the sufix line is still way too expensive over here, so peeps can't afford that kind of stuff! JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhookit Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 a fool and his money soon part ways i buy and use what ( Works ) if i can land a 200lbs common skate & 4 lbs of lead out of 650ft of water using £40 braid for 2000m then thats what ill use if i want to fill a tiagra 80w using 100lbs Hollow core that costs me just over a £100 and used to land a 550lbs B F T then ill used it until the cows come home many a old car racing car as beat the works teams having said that im a YORKSHIRE MAN we well known for having long pockets and short arms tight lines Alain JDP, Saintly Fish and suzook12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 11 hours ago, JDP said: There's no way I would rely on ebay braid for any fishing, way to much time and money invested to risk it on. I use Spectra braid from ebay. It is made in the same factory as Shimano power pro, it looks identical and behaves identical. also it is cheap enough to replace more frequently, which for me is every 2 years or so. TBH, I am a lot more fussy about mono leaders, rig bodies, and snoods. Mono (co-polymer) does vary a lot and usually ‘cheap’ is rubbish. JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 4 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Oh dear, did you get out of bed on the wrong side today Jon? I don't think Alain was turning it into a "what do you all use" thread. He was just joining in. Like I said, the sufix line is still way too expensive over here, so peeps can't afford that kind of stuff! Yep another day in the hospital today, a few hassles just now, feeling a grump. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, willyhookit said: a fool and his money soon part ways i buy and use what ( Works ) if i can land a 200lbs common skate & 4 lbs of lead out of 650ft of water using £40 braid for 2000m then thats what ill use if i want to fill a tiagra 80w using 100lbs Hollow core that costs me just over a £100 and used to land a 550lbs B F T then ill used it until the cows come home many a old car racing car as beat the works teams having said that im a YORKSHIRE MAN we well known for having long pockets and short arms tight lines Alain Do you find you always get the same braid or ever noticed the same brand changes at all ? Ive had friends buy ebay braid and been happy with, then bought from the same site and had terrible results. Ive also had friends by what they thought was genuine saltine braid in 1500m spools on obey which you could break with ease. Apologies on the earlier post, had a few days in and out hospital which I find frustrating. Still good to see some of your pics. If the pics are too large to post, you can take a picture of them with your phone perhaps and resize down if you have more. Its funny as we are starting to see large skate in my area now, not rays but true skate like what you posted. What's more, one of the deep water investigators recently filmed skate at 3000m deep off the coast here, which was a huge surprise to the researchers. suzook12, Saintly Fish and Andy135 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 53 minutes ago, GPSguru said: I use Spectra braid from ebay. It is made in the same factory as Shimano power pro, it looks identical and behaves identical. also it is cheap enough to replace more frequently, which for me is every 2 years or so. TBH, I am a lot more fussy about mono leaders, rig bodies, and snoods. Mono (co-polymer) does vary a lot and usually ‘cheap’ is rubbish. How do you know its made from the same factory, is it stated on the braid or one of those stories that spread so much they much be true ? If its commonly advertised as from the same factory, why would anyone every buy power pro. Buy the way, even though power pro is very popular, I haven't used it in at least 10-15yrs, would rather use mono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhookit Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 not noticed any change in the braid i buy as i buy it it in 2000m spools but only put 1000m on my 30w & 50 W tiagras 3inch aussie plait loop is then used on each i then attach a wind on Nylon top shot if shark fishing if common skate fishing i just attach a 350lbs nylon wind-on and clip a hook traces on on the 80w ,s i use 2000m of hollow core with a spliced in nyon top shot i use a ( Bee,s nee,s ) spooling station with line counter i set my reels drag using a Bouz drag checker this is set at the reel between the reel and the first roller guide JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GPSguru Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 12 hours ago, JDP said: How do you know its made from the same factory As a tackle dealer, I am in direct contact with the wholesalers, so I get to know when a lot of 'major brand' is made, and some of it would surprise you ! An example would be 2 major hook brands in the uk come from the same factory, same batch runs. We will call them A & B. Some anglers use B because A breaks. Some anglers use B because A bends, yet they are the same hooks 🤷♂️ suzook12 and JDP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 57 minutes ago, GPSguru said: As a tackle dealer, I am in direct contact with the wholesalers, so I get to know when a lot of 'major brand' is made, and some of it would surprise you ! An example would be 2 major hook brands in the uk come from the same factory, same batch runs. We will call them A & B. Some anglers use B because A breaks. Some anglers use B because A bends, yet they are the same hooks 🤷♂️ Yes totally agree that many things come from the same factory and get labeled differently and not just fishing gear. I was just wondering where the info was coming from to state that powerpro and low cost ebay braids are the same and what is it called on ebay. I've seen some dreadful ebay braid which I 100% believe was just cotton. My personal experience with power pro bought from respected tackle shop dealers has been a short lived relatively thick braid that discolours quickly, fluffs up and breaks easily after a few uses on line class species. Yes using 50-80lb braid with drag settings of 10-20lb will hold up ok . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 20 hours ago, GPSguru said: I use Spectra braid from ebay Yep, gets the 👍from me and several of my friends and lots of others I speak to, good quality gear tends to sell itself by word of mouth. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Any of you experts can get large quantities of Hollowcore? Needs to be 100lb and I’m after 10,000m quantities…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhookit Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 42 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Any of you experts can get large quantities of Hollowcore? Needs to be 100lb and I’m after 10,000m quantities…. not a expert but can get you 2000m spools from 30 to 500lbs for about £109 per spool its what i use to make my wind-ons and on my tiagras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 16 hours ago, willyhookit said: not a expert but can get you 2000m spools from 30 to 500lbs for about £109 per spool its what i use to make my wind-ons and on my tiagras Do you stick to buying the same labeled ebay braid or shop around ? Maybe its just this part of the world but everyone Ive known to try ebay braids have ended up binning theirs. Maybe being so close to China we get way more fraudulent braid. Ebay even shows this when I looked to see what we have on offer https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Buying/BUYER-BE-AWARE-OVER-RATED-STRENGTH-RAITINGS-ON-BRAID-LINES-amp/td-p/1729155 Some of the department store braids can be cheaper than Ebay and at least people have a bit of warranty if it doesn't perform as advertised. I saw a conversation on another site where dry and wet strengths also changed on some of them. We might only get 1 or 2 days (nights) opportunity to target broadbill, which can be in excess of 300kg and found offshore in water depths of 3000m. I'd prefer the confidence of knowing the braid on my reel when I have 1200m out that it is as advertised. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 6 hours ago, JDP said: Do you stick to buying the same labeled ebay braid or shop around ? Maybe its just this part of the world but everyone Ive known to try ebay braids have ended up binning theirs. Maybe being so close to China we get way more fraudulent braid. Ebay even shows this when I looked to see what we have on offer https://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Buying/BUYER-BE-AWARE-OVER-RATED-STRENGTH-RAITINGS-ON-BRAID-LINES-amp/td-p/1729155 Some of the department store braids can be cheaper than Ebay and at least people have a bit of warranty if it doesn't perform as advertised. I saw a conversation on another site where dry and wet strengths also changed on some of them. We might only get 1 or 2 days (nights) opportunity to target broadbill, which can be in excess of 300kg and found offshore in water depths of 3000m. I'd prefer the confidence of knowing the braid on my reel when I have 1200m out that it is as advertised. Totally agree…. I use the cheap stuff for general fishing but I use trusted (more expensive stuff) for the big fish trips. JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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